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 Post subject: 8/18/09 Brewers @ Pirates *Andy hitting cleanup*
PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 4:46 pm 
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1 McCutchen CF
2 Young 2B
3 Jones RF
4 LaRoche 3B
5 Doumit C
6 Milledge LF
7 Pearce 1B
8 Cedeno SS
9 Ohlendorf P

Brewers

1 Lopez 2B
2 Counsell SS
3 Braun LF
4 Fielder 1B
5 McGehee 3B
6 Cameron CF
7 Catalanotto RF
8 Rivera C
9 Parra P

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 Post subject: Re: 8/18/09 Brewers @ Pirates *Andy hitting cleanup*
PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 5:17 pm 
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That is scary bad!


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Geez, when is JR going to give Doumit a rest? Between the Dog Days and the wrist injury, he's really scuffling right now. Keep running him out there tired, and the risk for injury goes up.


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JJ is more than able to fill-in on a regular basis. I feel like Doumit and JJ could switch off every other day...unless one of them gets on a streak.


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bradf wrote:
That is scary bad!

What about it is scarier/badder than any other day's lineup?


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 Post subject: Re: 8/18/09 Brewers @ Pirates *Andy hitting cleanup*
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I would put LqRoche in the 2 spot, move Delwin into the 3 spot and Jones at cleanup. Just my take.


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cappscrew138 wrote:
JJ is more than able to fill-in on a regular basis. I feel like Doumit and JJ could switch off every other day...unless one of them gets on a streak.


I agree. JR is going to have to accept the fact that Ryan Doumit is a 100-120 game per year catcher, not a 140-150 game per year catcher.


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 Post subject: Re: 8/18/09 Brewers @ Pirates *Andy hitting cleanup*
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I agree with Doug Frobel on this one, but it is good to see him at least get moved down in the order. I would like to see him further down, but it is a start at least.


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 Post subject: Re: 8/18/09 Brewers @ Pirates *Andy hitting cleanup*
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Things are looking good! Lastings finally gets the power monkey off his back. Parra is getting beat on as usual.


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Looks like Ohlendorf could go 8 plus tonight. He has really replaced Maholm as our second best guy over the last few months. Looking for big things out of this guy next year as well.


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It's looking good again tonight. I hope this bring more posters back to the board.


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 Post subject: Re: 8/18/09 Brewers @ Pirates *Andy hitting cleanup*
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I only have Gameday but it looks like Ohlendorf found his fastball again. Can anyone watching verify?

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Captain Brown wrote:
I only have Gameday but it looks like Ohlendorf found his fastball again. Can anyone watching verify?


He has hit 96 a few times tonight and 94 pretty regularly. He was throwing them mostly where he wanted all night. He seems to be dealing the four seamer more often lately (if not, it just seems that way).


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If we put the Brewers away tonight i think we have got them back in a bigger way than a beam ball. I think we offically ended their chances at the post season, because you know they were coming into Pittsburgh looking to make up ground on the wildcard.


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Colin21 wrote:
If we put the Brewers away tonight i think we have got them back in a bigger way than a beam ball. I think we offically ended their chances at the post season, because you know they were coming into Pittsburgh looking to make up ground on the wildcard.


Good. I can't think of a better club to do this to.

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Put it away. Milledge steps up and Ross pitches great, he has been a gem this year and has stepped up as our best pitcher this season.


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Colin21 wrote:
If we put the Brewers away tonight i think we have got them back in a bigger way than a beam ball. I think we offically ended their chances at the post season, because you know they were coming into Pittsburgh looking to make up ground on the wildcard.


Yes. Stick it to those crybabies! I relish beating these whiners more than any other team.

Edit: good tidbit from the post-game interview. Milledge is doing speed and agility drills everyday. Hopefully this will help this guy regain some speed he seems to have lost slightly. I am happy our staff is getting it done.


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 Post subject: Re: 8/18/09 Brewers @ Pirates *Andy hitting cleanup*
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Two observations:

(1) Walk mentioned that Ohlendorf has gone back to the 4-seam, rather than the 2-seam, and his velocity increase is due to that. He has featured the 4-seam in his past 6 starts according to Walk. During that time, Ohlendorf has been hitting 93-96 mph regularly and has gone 4-1, with 36 1/3 IP, 34 H, 15 BB's, 18 K's 11 earned runs, and a 2.72 ERA. His walk total was driven up by a 5-walk game against Arizona.

(2) Salary dumps suck. Like trading a proven starter who won in double figures for some guy in A-ball. That Kip Wells for Jesse Chavez deal stunk - stupid salary dump.

Oh, so the young guy is now dealing 97 mph in the majors and getting guys out, while the "proven" pitcher is stinking it up? So the vet-for-young-player deals have potential? Hmmmm ... amazing.


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