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 Post subject: Re: Bucs vs Snakes 8/6/09
PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:16 pm 
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That's fine, but my point is the same...I don't like it when the closer pitches in a non-save situation. Your statement is irrelevant to what I am saying.


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 Post subject: Re: Bucs vs Snakes 8/6/09
PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:25 pm 
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Chris Anderson wrote:
That's fine, but my point is the same...I don't like it when the closer pitches in a non-save situation. Your statement is irrelevant to what I am saying.

So you're suggesting home teams never bring in their closers in extra inning games?


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 Post subject: Re: Bucs vs Snakes 8/6/09
PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:30 pm 
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Chris Anderson wrote:
That's fine, but my point is the same...I don't like it when the closer pitches in a non-save situation. Your statement is irrelevant to what I am saying.


Is the closer supposed to be your best reliever?? So why not bring him in with the best chance to win the game?

And tonight, Capps has been AMAZING! WOW!

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 Post subject: Re: Bucs vs Snakes 8/6/09
PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:58 pm 
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I hate the bunt here... How often has Milledge bunted in his life? Let McCuthen steal...then hope for a hit from one of next three. Come on Russell!

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 Post subject: Re: Bucs vs Snakes 8/6/09
PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:06 am 
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Going to the 12th. Our bullpen can't hang on much longer.

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 Post subject: Re: Bucs vs Snakes 8/6/09
PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:12 am 
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Colin21 wrote:
Going to the 12th. Our bullpen can't hang on much longer.



You got that right! Come on Bucs...we gotta salvage one of these games!

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 Post subject: Re: Bucs vs Snakes 8/6/09
PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:14 am 
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Colin21 wrote:
Going to the 12th. Our bullpen can't hang on much longer.



You got that right! Come on Bucs...we gotta salvage one of these games!


Man, it's been a tough stretch. When is the Steelers first game?? lol

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 Post subject: Re: Bucs vs Snakes 8/6/09
PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:21 am 
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Colin21 wrote:
Going to the 12th. Our bullpen can't hang on much longer.


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 Post subject: Re: Bucs vs Snakes 8/6/09
PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:59 am 
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BBF - your pictorial is much more merciful than what the Pirates are right now. Horrifying, terrible, immediate and done - hey, maybe the picture does have a lot in common with the Pirates.


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 Post subject: Re: Bucs vs Snakes 8/6/09
PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:31 am 
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Just a bad way to go down... a tough pill to swallow.

Pen couldn't hold it down and it just got uglier from there.

Tough one...

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 Post subject: Re: Bucs vs Snakes 8/6/09
PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 2:48 am 
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Colin21 wrote:
Going to the 12th. Our bullpen can't hang on much longer.


Wow i got this one right. It's like i've seen it happen before :o


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 Post subject: Re: Bucs vs Snakes 8/6/09
PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:13 am 
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If I'm managing, Garrett Jones is bunting with Cutch and Milledge on 1st and 2nd and nobody out in whatever inning it was. (8th or 9th?) Milledge wouldn't have been bunting with Cutch on 1st and nobody out, though.


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 Post subject: Re: Bucs vs Snakes 8/6/09
PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 5:18 am 
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Penguin wrote:
Chris Anderson wrote:
That's fine, but my point is the same...I don't like it when the closer pitches in a non-save situation. Your statement is irrelevant to what I am saying.

So you're suggesting home teams never bring in their closers in extra inning games?



First off...I agree in a tie game, the closer should come in and perform just like he is trying to close out the game. My hypothesis is that when a closer enters a game in a non-save situation, even a tie game, they (at least Capps) do not perform well. My evidence:

Capps in save situations this year. 23 innings pitched with an ERA of 3.24. 21 saves, 2 Blown saves, 1 hold.

Capps in non-save situations this year. 14.2 innings pitched with an ERA of 8.63. 1 win, 4 losses.

To me...pretty compelling stats that support my opinion. But, it is just my opinion and is only limited to studying Capps this season. Looking at last season's stats he was pretty even between the two scenarios.


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 Post subject: Re: Bucs vs Snakes 8/6/09
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Jack Round Tripper wrote:
If I'm managing, Garrett Jones is bunting with Cutch and Milledge on 1st and 2nd and nobody out in whatever inning it was. (8th or 9th?)

It was the bottom of the 11th. My guess is that Jones is just not capable of bunting.

In other words, he is a Pirate.


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