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 Post subject: June 22, 2013 Pirates (44-30) at Angels (33-41)
PostPosted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:45 pm 
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1. Marte LF
2. Martin C
3. McCutchen CF
4. Jones DH
5. Alvarez 3B
6. Sanchez 1B
7. Walker 2B
8. Snider RF
9. Mercer SS

Pitcher: Francisco Liriano (5-3) 2.44 ERA


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1. Bourjos CF
2. Trout LF
3. Pujols DH
4. Trumbo 1B
5. Kendrick 2B
6. Callaspo 3B
7. Aybar SS
8. Iannetta C
9. Shuck RF

Pitcher: Jerome Williams (5-2) 3.14 ERA

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 Post subject: Re: June 22, 2013 Pirates (44-30) at Angels (33-41)
PostPosted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 11:03 pm 
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Reds lost to dbacks again. Bucs have a chance to forge ahead.


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 Post subject: Re: June 22, 2013 Pirates (44-30) at Angels (33-41)
PostPosted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 11:04 pm 
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At first I was excited at the prospects of the Journeyman Williams, but then I noticed his ERA was respectable. Curious, I then looked at his logs to notice that he has a still respectable, albeit slightly higher, 3.53 ERA in the seven games he's started.

He's gone less than six in only one of those starts and given up more than two runs only twice, too.

His ERA is slightly higher at home in those starts though (3.76).

All this is to say none of us should be shocked if this turned into one of those 'mediocre pitcher does well against the Pirates' games.

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 Post subject: Re: June 22, 2013 Pirates (44-30) at Angels (33-41)
PostPosted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 11:37 pm 
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Nice to see the bucs rally and score early again. Cutch ended the rally but again he was unlucky as he tattooed the ball.

Liriano has runs to work with which is rare for him.


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 Post subject: Re: June 22, 2013 Pirates (44-30) at Angels (33-41)
PostPosted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 12:03 am 
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Gaby Sanchez. Hats off to you man. Wow.


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 Post subject: Re: June 22, 2013 Pirates (44-30) at Angels (33-41)
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 Post subject: Re: June 22, 2013 Pirates (44-30) at Angels (33-41)
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Time to move Mercer up in the batting order. There's really no reason for him to be hitting eighth other than the fact that that's where Barmes was and he happened to replace him. I'd pencil him into the 2-hole to get that bat in front of McCutchen, at least tentatively. Snider, Walker and Martin have all had the chance to hit there, right now I think Mercer is the best fit. Move Martin down into the 5-6 range where he's probably hit his whole career and drop Snider to eighth. And with Snider there and Inge, Barmes and McKenry not getting regular playing time, the bottom of the order still isn't the gaping black hole it had mostly been up to this point.


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 Post subject: Re: June 22, 2013 Pirates (44-30) at Angels (33-41)
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Also, what's with still not using T. Sanchez as DH while playing Gaby against a RHP for the second night in a row? Credit to Gaby, he pulled off an infield single and made a run-saving defensive play but you wouldn't think his 0-4 game last night would warrant starting him again with the platoon disadvantage when he has a .580 against RHP. Luckily the offense through the first two games has been fine without it, but still makes no sense to me.


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 Post subject: Re: June 22, 2013 Pirates (44-30) at Angels (33-41)
PostPosted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:03 am 
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I think its just that, there really isn't anyone else to bat DH t warrant sitting Gaby. Sanchez was called up to bat DH against tonight's scheduled starting pitcher before he went on the dl. If it matters any Gaby's defense is a click better than Jones' is at first base. Tony wasn't called up to face a right hander from what was reported. The rest of the bench is Inge, Barmes and McKenry.


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 Post subject: Re: June 22, 2013 Pirates (44-30) at Angels (33-41)
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buccosfan77 wrote:
I think its just that, there really isn't anyone else to bat DH t warrant sitting Gaby. Sanchez was called up to bat DH against tonight's scheduled starting pitcher before he went on the dl. If it matters any Gaby's defense is a click better than Jones' is at first base. Tony wasn't called up to face a right hander from what was reported. The rest of the bench is Inge, Barmes and McKenry.


Doesn't make much sense. He's obviously destroying LHP, but Tony's splits aren't drastic enough to warrant not letting him DH against a RHP considering that Gaby is completely useless against them. I get that Vargas was a LHP and that would be a good time to debut T. Sanchez as DH but considering the platoon disadvantage with Gaby I don't see how doing the opposite when Vargas is replaced by a righty is a better option. I agree that I'd still put Gaby in the line-up over any of the other bench options despite who's pitching, just don't see why they still wouldn't DH Tony.


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 Post subject: Re: June 22, 2013 Pirates (44-30) at Angels (33-41)
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Of course, minutes after that post Gaby crushed a ball off of the foul pole off a RH reliever. Full credit to Hurdle, it worked tonight.


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 Post subject: Re: June 22, 2013 Pirates (44-30) at Angels (33-41)
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Welker was warming up ... I think this would have been a perfect inning to give him some work rather than Wilson pitching two and then being unavailable for a while like we saw happen from the Red series.


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 Post subject: Re: June 22, 2013 Pirates (44-30) at Angels (33-41)
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TheShark wrote:
buccosfan77 wrote:
I think its just that, there really isn't anyone else to bat DH t warrant sitting Gaby. Sanchez was called up to bat DH against tonight's scheduled starting pitcher before he went on the dl. If it matters any Gaby's defense is a click better than Jones' is at first base. Tony wasn't called up to face a right hander from what was reported. The rest of the bench is Inge, Barmes and McKenry.


Doesn't make much sense. He's obviously destroying LHP, but Tony's splits aren't drastic enough to warrant not letting him DH against a RHP considering that Gaby is completely useless against them. I get that Vargas was a LHP and that would be a good time to debut T. Sanchez as DH but considering the platoon disadvantage with Gaby I don't see how doing the opposite when Vargas is replaced by a righty is a better option. I agree that I'd still put Gaby in the line-up over any of the other bench options despite who's pitching, just don't see why they still wouldn't DH Tony.


If anything its Tony Sanchez's lack of experience. Trying to wrap a series win is enormously important. With that in the bag perhaps we'll see Tony tomorrow to give some guys rest before heading to the wet city.


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 Post subject: Re: June 22, 2013 Pirates (44-30) at Angels (33-41)
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TheShark wrote:
Welker was warming up ... I think this would have been a perfect inning to give him some work rather than Wilson pitching two and then being unavailable for a while like we saw happen from the Red series.


Agree, gotta get the young man reps with a 5 run lead. Now Wilson is most likely unavailable for game 1 in Seattle even with the day off coming.


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 Post subject: Re: June 22, 2013 Pirates (44-30) at Angels (33-41)
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I don't agree with sentimentality in baseball, but it wouldn't surprise me if they don't want Tony Sanchez's ML debut to be a pinch-hit situation. It's stupid but I can't help but think with a guy like him they want some dignity.

Don't understand the bullpen usage tonight. Nice to save Melancon and Grilli but I feel like Welker and Reid coulda held it down instead of Wilson.

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 Post subject: Re: June 22, 2013 Pirates (44-30) at Angels (33-41)
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Is JW blind saying Marte's outfield assist in the 4th inning was a 3 hopper? That mo was a one hop laser beam right on the money.


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 Post subject: Re: June 22, 2013 Pirates (44-30) at Angels (33-41)
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TheShark wrote:
Time to move Mercer up in the batting order. There's really no reason for him to be hitting eighth other than the fact that that's where Barmes was and he happened to replace him. I'd pencil him into the 2-hole to get that bat in front of McCutchen, at least tentatively. Snider, Walker and Martin have all had the chance to hit there, right now I think Mercer is the best fit. Move Martin down into the 5-6 range where he's probably hit his whole career and drop Snider to eighth. And with Snider there and Inge, Barmes and McKenry not getting regular playing time, the bottom of the order still isn't the gaping black hole it had mostly been up to this point.


Yeah, that appears to be a solid move right now with Jordy swinging a hot bat.

If he can sustain a solid enough OBP might he be a leadoff option? Marte has the speed to bat first, but we all know his K woes.

Too ideal a dream and/or better to just him behind Marte?

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 Post subject: Re: June 22, 2013 Pirates (44-30) at Angels (33-41)
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Bravo Bucs!

Break out the brooms and blast Blanton!

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 Post subject: Re: June 22, 2013 Pirates (44-30) at Angels (33-41)
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Great win! Bring out the brooms!


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 Post subject: Re: June 22, 2013 Pirates (44-30) at Angels (33-41)
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I took advantage of it being the free game on MLB to get my first sighting of this exciting team and I was very impressed. The only down side was the number of walks we issued.
Nice that we can now compete in DH territory!

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