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 Post subject: Re: April 20, 2013 Braves (13-3) at Pirates (8-8)
PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 9:09 pm 
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Really gutsy 2nd by JMac there. He had all the makings of a disaster inning, but hung in there and struck out the side, giving up only the one run. Now our all-righty lineup needs to do something here. Unfortunately, we lose a lot when we do this because Garrett > Gaby, Snider > Tabata and Alvarez > McKenry. One of these guys will have to have a good game tonight, so far nada from them, in fact Tabata and Gaby actively bad.


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 Post subject: Re: April 20, 2013 Braves (13-3) at Pirates (8-8)
PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 9:12 pm 
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woo, way to go Marte, take it away.


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 Post subject: Re: April 20, 2013 Braves (13-3) at Pirates (8-8)
PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 9:20 pm 
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J Mac is hanging in there. Come bucs, get some runs!


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 Post subject: Re: April 20, 2013 Braves (13-3) at Pirates (8-8)
PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 9:27 pm 
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Why didn't Malhom pitch like this when he played for us?


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 Post subject: Re: April 20, 2013 Braves (13-3) at Pirates (8-8)
PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 9:29 pm 
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First game I've seen all season. By some dumb luck I turned to the MLBHD channel, and boom, there it was! The Root feed as well. I'm happy regardless of outcome.


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 Post subject: Re: April 20, 2013 Braves (13-3) at Pirates (8-8)
PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 9:38 pm 
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Clevelandsux wrote:
Why didn't Malhom pitch like this when he played for us?


The unbelievable start obviously isn't sustainable (and is a true headscratcher considering Maholm's pitch-to-contact stuff), however, he did pitch well for us for 5 seasons. His last two seasons with Chicago and Atlanta are pretty much mirror images of his last few seasons with the Pirates, no big surprise.


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 Post subject: Re: April 20, 2013 Braves (13-3) at Pirates (8-8)
PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 9:47 pm 
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Gaby!


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 Post subject: Re: April 20, 2013 Braves (13-3) at Pirates (8-8)
PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 9:56 pm 
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BBF wrote:
You have a pitcher who is struggling terribly starting tonight.

So let's play the veteran catcher that you brought in for his defense and game calling out at third.

Not only can you take away any benefit he provides behind the plate, but you can also weaken your infield defense.

I really hate our manager.


Even thought it's worked so far (and even though I agree with IA about the better matchups vs. Maholm), I agree with you.

On average and at best the addition of Martin+McKenry vs. a Lefty is a wash without Martin behind the plate.

Still better than Inge though... :shock: :D

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 Post subject: Re: April 20, 2013 Braves (13-3) at Pirates (8-8)
PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:11 pm 
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Can Barmes look anymore lost with a bat in his hands?

What a horrible at bat.


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 Post subject: Re: April 20, 2013 Braves (13-3) at Pirates (8-8)
PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:13 pm 
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Clevelandsux wrote:
Why didn't Malhom pitch like this when he played for us?


Lots of ways to break this one down.

Maholm was pretty good, especially by peer comparison, during his tenure here. He had one really good year (2008: 4.0 WAR by BR.com and 2.9 by BP/fangraphs) and one more 'hint of being good' year in his last season in B&G (2011: 2.5 WAR by BR, 1.3 BP and 1.7 FG). Along those same lines he had three years where is xFIP was lower (nearly 1/2 run or more) than his ERA (2007, 2009/10).

He always had the makings of a better pitcher and thanks to ATL's pitching coaches, which have been historically good at development since the late 80's, he's certainly improved.

All things considered his improvements are most likely due to the usual advantages of age/experience, improved coaching and/or defense.

He was never going to be this good for the 05-11 Pirates, but he may have been with the 2012+ Bucs if he were re-signed.

Maholm was good for what he was, but was just wrong place at the wrong time. That said, at least he wasn't Ian Snell.

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 Post subject: Re: April 20, 2013 Braves (13-3) at Pirates (8-8)
PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:17 pm 
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The best part about a strong J-Mac outing is the saving of the 'pen. *phew*

All these runs left on base would be more frustrating if not for the confidence that Grilled Cheese inspires.

Chris Johnson is quickly becoming the new Reed Johnson: Pirate killer. PITCH AROUND HIM.

If Gaby can continue this kind of production while platooning... *froths at mouth Homer Simpson style*

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NSMaster56 wrote:
That said, at least he wasn't Ian Snell.


Or Tom Gorzelanny, Zach Duke, or Oliver Perez.


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 Post subject: Re: April 20, 2013 Braves (13-3) at Pirates (8-8)
PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:25 pm 
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TheShark wrote:
NSMaster56 wrote:
That said, at least he wasn't Ian Snell.


Or Tom Gorzelanny, Zach Duke, or Oliver Perez.


*empathetic and humiliated laugh*

Yeah. Exactly.

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 Post subject: Re: April 20, 2013 Braves (13-3) at Pirates (8-8)
PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:39 pm 
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So let's recap...

Game 1 was lost when Hurdle insisted to trust Jared Hughes and when a couple of chances to bring in runs ended in frustrating fashion.

Game 2 saw the Bucs shut down and smack around the best team in the league.

In Game 3 the Bucs most hot/cold SP came out hot while their bats finally got the best of the Braves current hot-hot-HOT SP.

And now Game 4 will have the Bucs weakest pitcher working on long rest (and with a well-rested 'pen to aid him) facing the Braves best pitcher, but with the Bucs bats slowly gaining confidence.

Nice!

This has turned out alright so far and couldn't be more of a pleasant surprise.

RAISE IT!

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 Post subject: Re: April 20, 2013 Braves (13-3) at Pirates (8-8)
PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:22 pm 
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NSMaster56 wrote:
So let's recap...

Game 1 was lost when Hurdle insisted to trust Jared Hughes and when a couple of chances to bring in runs ended in frustrating fashion.

Game 2 saw the Bucs shut down and smack around the best team in the league.

In Game 3 the Bucs most hot/cold SP came out hot while their bats finally got the best of the Braves current hot-hot-HOT SP.

And now Game 4 will have the Bucs weakest pitcher working on long rest (and with a well-rested 'pen to aid him) facing the Braves best pitcher, but with the Bucs bats slowly gaining confidence.

Nice!

I'll take the results. Think about this. Hurdle doesn't let Hughes go a second inning and the braves don't take the lead. The game ends up going 17 innings and as a result everyone's taxed. The bucs lose the next two in the series after being robbed on a botched call to end the first game of the series ....... :cry:

This has turned out alright so far and couldn't be more of a pleasant surprise.

RAISE IT!


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 Post subject: Re: April 20, 2013 Braves (13-3) at Pirates (8-8)
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It's always nice to beat Atlanta


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Corsair wrote:
It's always nice to beat Atlanta


I agree, I think I hate them more than I hate anybody.


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 Post subject: Re: April 20, 2013 Braves (13-3) at Pirates (8-8)
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Clevelandsux wrote:
I agree, I think I hate them more than I hate anybody.


Maybe your handle should be atlantasux... :D :D :D :D :D


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 Post subject: Re: April 20, 2013 Braves (13-3) at Pirates (8-8)
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BBF wrote:
You have a pitcher who is struggling terribly starting tonight.

So let's play the veteran catcher that you brought in for his defense and game calling out at third.

Not only can you take away any benefit he provides behind the plate, but you can also weaken your infield defense.

I really hate our manager.


Your post was #HURDLED.

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 Post subject: Re: April 20, 2013 Braves (13-3) at Pirates (8-8)
PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 10:37 am 
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Last night's game was like deja vu.

Maholm throws well, receives little offensive support, has one bad inning and loses.

Sound familiar?

Key difference? He wasn't wearing black-and-gold last night.

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