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Baltimore won today to go 9 games over .500 despite being the only team with a winning record with a negative run differential. A whopping -49. Now, we all know who has gone 19 seasons without breaking .500, but the Orioles have a dismal streak of their own: 14 straight losing seasons. There's a good chance both teams will break those records this season. Of course, it gets easier with newcomer Manny Machado hitting his third homerun in four games...


Conversely, Boston is the only team in the majors with a losing record and a positive run differential, a substantial +41. Fun times in the AL East.


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One of Boston's relief pitchers batted late in today's game vs. the Tribe. I don't know if the manager got confused with his lineup
or somebody got hurt.


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Derek Jeter, leading the AL in hits and second overall to Melky, has 17 seasons of 150+ hits. Only major leaguer with as many seasons is Hank Aaron. Pretty rarified air for a guy who was "slowing down".

And speaking of hits and Yankees, by my count, Ichiro has started 17 games for the Yanks and gotten 18 hits. He's had hits in all but two of the 17 (though he did have a 0 hit pinch hit game and came on the field as defensive replacement) and he's had a 5 RBI game.


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val wrote:
Derek Jeter, leading the AL in hits and second overall to Melky, has 17 seasons of 150+ hits. Only major leaguer with as many seasons is Hank Aaron. Pretty rarified air for a guy who was "slowing down".

And speaking of hits and Yankees, by my count, Ichiro has started 17 games for the Yanks and gotten 18 hits. He's had hits in all but two of the 17 (though he did have a 0 hit pinch hit game and came on the field as defensive replacement) and he's had a 5 RBI game.


I believe both Rose and Cobb have equaled or even surpassed that feat. Not that it dimishes his accomplishment in any way. However I dont think Jete and Aaron are the only major leagers with 17 season of 150 hits.


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This ought to make us feel better about the direction the team has taken in the past three seasons.

Jayson Stark wrote:
    I might have to create my own category for the Astros. They're not just astounding anymore. They're Astrounding. But they're also in the midst of a gravitational plunge unlike anything most living humans have ever witnessed:

  • In their last 38 games, these Astros are 4-34. I'm shocked to report that no National League team has endured a 38-game stretch that grim since the legendary 1899 Cleveland Spiders finished their season with an attractive 1-40 debacle. And any team that winds up in the same sentence as those Spiders needs to ingest a lot of Tylenol immediately.
  • The only other teams in modern history to win no more than four times in any 38-game stretch? Clyde Vollmer's 1949 Washington Senators (4-34) and Whitey Witt's 1916 Philadelphia Athletics (2-36). And that's it.
  • At least the 'Stros won't leave home again until Monday. And why is that such good news? Uh, they're 2-24 on the road since June 14. That's why. They're also 6-37 since they won in Pittsburgh on May 11, and 11-46 away from Houston for the season. Trouble Ahead Alert: They'll need to get cranking if they want to avoid the record for fewest road wins in a 162-game season. Which is 17, by Rod Kanehl's 1963 Mets and Lastings Milledge's 2010 Pirates. Think this team has a 7-17 stretch in it? It had better!



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The Astros plunge makes total sense though.

They almost surely had less talent than the Bucs did when NH took over and they weren't shy about unloading it.

Kind of sad that it had to come to this for them, but that's what they get for being so stubborn and trying to tread water since the WS year.

This is what happens when you rebuild at least 5 years too late.

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One of Boston's relief pitchers batted late in today's game vs. the Tribe. I don't know if the manager got confused with his lineup or somebody got hurt.

The rule is that the lineup slot that contains the DH at the beginning of the game must contain the DH for the entire game. If any player batting in that slot appears in the field, then the pitcher must immediately be inserted into the batting order somewhere.

In this game, it looks like the Red Sox had a huge lead and made a bunch of substitutions to rest their starters. Saltalamacchia, who started the game as the DH, went in to play first base. It looks like they let the relief pitcher bat just as a "WTF" gesture.

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I kind of feel for the Sox, but I kind of don't. On one hand, they're part of the problem with the money structure of this league. On the other, it seems like every big investment they made hasn't panned out due to some freak injuries. Or weirdness like Adrian Gonzalez's power disappearing when joining a hitter's park, of all things.


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The Bucs have 6 games left with the Astros (3 at home; 3 away). The Reds have 3 left with the Astros (all 3 at home). The Cardinals have 9 games left with the Astros (6 at home; 3 on the road, including 6 games leading into the final week of the season).

JollyRoger wrote:
This ought to make us feel better about the direction the team has taken in the past three seasons.

Jayson Stark wrote:
    I might have to create my own category for the Astros. They're not just astounding anymore. They're Astrounding. But they're also in the midst of a gravitational plunge unlike anything most living humans have ever witnessed:

  • In their last 38 games, these Astros are 4-34. I'm shocked to report that no National League team has endured a 38-game stretch that grim since the legendary 1899 Cleveland Spiders finished their season with an attractive 1-40 debacle. And any team that winds up in the same sentence as those Spiders needs to ingest a lot of Tylenol immediately.
  • The only other teams in modern history to win no more than four times in any 38-game stretch? Clyde Vollmer's 1949 Washington Senators (4-34) and Whitey Witt's 1916 Philadelphia Athletics (2-36). And that's it.
  • At least the 'Stros won't leave home again until Monday. And why is that such good news? Uh, they're 2-24 on the road since June 14. That's why. They're also 6-37 since they won in Pittsburgh on May 11, and 11-46 away from Houston for the season. Trouble Ahead Alert: They'll need to get cranking if they want to avoid the record for fewest road wins in a 162-game season. Which is 17, by Rod Kanehl's 1963 Mets and Lastings Milledge's 2010 Pirates. Think this team has a 7-17 stretch in it? It had better!



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For those of you haven't had enough of the "Will the Nationals really shut down Stephen Strasburg?" conversation, here's some really great articles from Jayson Stark and Rob Neyer regarding the issue. Stark's is probably as comprehensive as it gets regarding the issue without rendering an opinion, while Neyer offers his opinion that the Nationals, while likely taking the correct approach in limiting Strasburg's innings, are doing so in an overly rigid manner and could have handled the situation better.

Stark: http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/82534 ... -let-pitch

Neyer: http://mlb.sbnation.com/2012/8/10/32338 ... ings-limit

To tie this in to the Bucs, I expect that the innings-limit conversation will likely be had with regard to Cole and Taillon.

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No. 9 wrote:
The Bucs have 6 games left with the Astros (3 at home; 3 away). The Reds have 3 left with the Astros (all 3 at home). The Cardinals have 9 games left with the Astros (6 at home; 3 on the road, including 6 games leading into the final week of the season).

Not to nitpick, 9, but the Reds actually have 6 left with Houston, 3 on the road (8/31-9/2) and 3 at home. :)

The aggregate winning percentage of the teams on the remainders of the schedule for all three teams:

Reds: .464
Pirates: .475
Cardinals: .494

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Judge Landis wrote:
No. 9 wrote:
The Bucs have 6 games left with the Astros (3 at home; 3 away). The Reds have 3 left with the Astros (all 3 at home). The Cardinals have 9 games left with the Astros (6 at home; 3 on the road, including 6 games leading into the final week of the season).

Not to nitpick, 9, but the Reds actually have 6 left with Houston, 3 on the road (8/31-9/2) and 3 at home. :)

The aggregate winning percentage of the teams on the remainders of the schedule for all three teams:

Reds: .464
Pirates: .475
Cardinals: .494


You are right. My mistake. I put together a spreadsheet with the 3 teams' schedules for Aug/Sept/Oct and I missed the series that the Reds have with Astros at GABP. The Cards still have 6 games left with the Nationals, including a 3 game set on August 28-30 while the Reds are at PNC Park. Here's the potential double edged sword: If the Bucs are still in the race, we'd want the Nats playing all out to win and not resting its regulars. But . . . in order to be in that position . . . the Braves are going to need to play some serious baseball which harms the Bucs' chances in the wild card race. I guess I'll just have to root for the Nats and the Braves to both go in the tank . . .

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val wrote:
Derek Jeter, leading the AL in hits and second overall to Melky, has 17 seasons of 150+ hits. Only major leaguer with as many seasons is Hank Aaron. Pretty rarified air for a guy who was "slowing down".

And speaking of hits and Yankees, by my count, Ichiro has started 17 games for the Yanks and gotten 18 hits. He's had hits in all but two of the 17 (though he did have a 0 hit pinch hit game and came on the field as defensive replacement) and he's had a 5 RBI game.


I believe both Rose and Cobb have equaled or even surpassed that feat. Not that it dimishes his accomplishment in any way. However I dont think Jete and Aaron are the only major leagers with 17 season of 150 hits.


You would be correct. Rose had 19 such seasons and Cobb 18.

I guess the record I am referring to is that both Aaron and Jeter have 17 consecutive seasons.


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Earl Weaver is 82 today.

I hope someone is happy this night, because I am not.

Happy B-Day Earl!


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val wrote:
Happy B-Day Earl!

Or, as Earl Weaver would put it: "Happy MF-ing birthday, you F-ing A-hole, try not to F up blowing the F-ing candles on your GD MF-ing cake, F F MF-ing GD S A MF-er."

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And in other news, Johnny Pesky has passed on at 92. His name probably won't register with the younger members of the board. He isn't in the Baseball Hall of Fame, but he was a legend here. He was a terrific second baseman for the Red Sox in the 1940s and '50s and a career .307 hitter. In fact, he led the AL in hits in each of his first three years in MLB despite taking time out to serve with the Navy in World War II after his rookie season. He later managed the Red Sox and later still was one of their broadcasters. In retirement, he was a principal in a local home-improvement products company.

As some of you know, I despise the Red Sox organization. Individually, however, some of its people have been fine gentlemen. Pesky was one of them.

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And in other news, Johnny Pesky has passed on at 92. His name probably won't register with the younger members of the board. He isn't in the Baseball Hall of Fame, but he was a legend here. He was a terrific second baseman for the Red Sox in the 1940s and '50s and a career .307 hitter. In fact, he led the AL in hits in each of his first three years in MLB despite taking time out to serve with the Navy in World War II after his rookie season. He later managed the Red Sox and later still was one of their broadcasters. In retirement, he was a principal in a local home-improvement products company.

As some of you know, I despise the Red Sox organization. Individually, however, some of its people have been fine gentlemen. Pesky was one of them.

As any APBA player will tell you, Pesky had the only other half-way decent card in the 41 Red Sox team set. I'll always remember the guy.

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From the I-Hate-the-Power-of-TV files:

http://mlb.si.com/2012/08/14/2012-playo ... &eref=sihp


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The Mariners' Felix Hernandez tossed a perfect game today, besting Tampa Bay 1-0 at Safeco Field. It was the 3rd MLB perfect game this season, and the 6th no-hitter.

Weirdly, 2 of the perfect games and 3 of the no-hitters have happened in Seattle.

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