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Author:  Willton [ Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Bixler/Diaz/Cedeno/Crosby
Steve1118 wrote:
It would be nice to have Jack Wilson back now. Oh, I forgot? We got Cedeno AND Jeff Clement for him. What a great deal.

But, we did come out money ahead.

Yes, wouldn't it be nice to have good ol' Jack Wilson back? I know I would just love to have back our old shortstop who is currently hitting worse than our current shortstop.

As has been illustrated, your sarcasm is ill-informed and unwarranted. I suggest you wax idiotic somewhere else.
Author:  Ryann [ Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Bixler/Diaz/Cedeno/Crosby
Willton wrote:
Steve1118 wrote:
It would be nice to have Jack Wilson back now. Oh, I forgot? We got Cedeno AND Jeff Clement for him. What a great deal.

But, we did come out money ahead.

Yes, wouldn't it be nice to have good ol' Jack Wilson back? I know I would just love to have back our old shortstop who is currently hitting worse than our current shortstop.

As has been illustrated, your sarcasm is ill-informed and unwarranted. I suggest you wax idiotic somewhere else.

I rather see a player who plays better defense, and actually cares about winning in Pittsburgh in Wilson.
Author:  Bucfan [ Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Bixler/Diaz/Cedeno/Crosby
Willton wrote:
Yes, wouldn't it be nice to have good ol' Jack Wilson back? I know I would just love to have back our old shortstop who is currently hitting worse than our current shortstop.

As has been illustrated, your sarcasm is ill-informed and unwarranted. I suggest you wax idiotic somewhere else.

You are of course overlooking the great pitching contributions of Ian Snell.
Author:  urbanexplorer [ Tue Jul 13, 2010 11:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Bixler/Diaz/Cedeno/Crosby
I think there are some members of this board who remember Jack Wilson when he was on top of his game, not the Jack Wilson we have seen the last 2 years or so. Even before we got rid of him, you could see a visible difference in him from years ago in his inconsistent hitting, lack of range in the field and lack of arm strength on his throws (not that he ever had a great arm, but a decent enough one). The simple fact is he just isn't the kind of player he once was and any GM willing to pay that kind of money for a player like the current Jack is insane.

Let's also remember Ronny Cedeno hasn't really disappointed anyone. We all knew when we got him what kind of player he was. A guy with decent tools, a terrible hitter who plays capable defense with an above average arm and pretty good range. You can't fault the front office for at least trying to find out what Diaz can bring to the team at this level and how he fares against MLB pitching. And we all probably can agree on the fact we don't need to see anymore Bixler at this level...ever :D
Author:  NSMaster56 [ Tue Jul 13, 2010 11:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Bixler/Diaz/Cedeno/Crosby
Since 2007 Jack Wilson hasn't been able to play more than 106 games or hit better than .272... and he has a lifetime .682 OPS.

As of right now, the only difference between Jack Wilson and Ronny Cedeno are the names on the back of their respective jerseys.

The only benefit of having Jumpin' Jack in black and gold right now would be to remember fonder days.
Author:  bucco boy [ Tue Jul 13, 2010 11:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Bixler/Diaz/Cedeno/Crosby
Ryann wrote:
I rather see a player who plays better defense, and actually cares about winning in Pittsburgh in Wilson.


Actually Wilson has more errors than Cedeno, but who's counting. And I love that quote from Cedeno on how he loves to lose.

What a maroon!

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Author:  Willton [ Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Bixler/Diaz/Cedeno/Crosby
Ryann wrote:
Willton wrote:
Steve1118 wrote:
It would be nice to have Jack Wilson back now. Oh, I forgot? We got Cedeno AND Jeff Clement for him. What a great deal.

But, we did come out money ahead.

Yes, wouldn't it be nice to have good ol' Jack Wilson back? I know I would just love to have back our old shortstop who is currently hitting worse than our current shortstop.

As has been illustrated, your sarcasm is ill-informed and unwarranted. I suggest you wax idiotic somewhere else.

I rather see a player who plays better defense, and actually cares about winning in Pittsburgh in Wilson.

And I'd rather have a player that can actually contribute toward winning in Pittsburgh. Substituting Wilson for Cedeno would be a step away from furthering that goal. I don't give a damn whether a player wants to win more if he cannot actually help the team do so.

Yes, Cedeno is bad, but Wilson is worse.
Author:  VanSlick [ Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Bixler/Diaz/Cedeno/Crosby
I wonder if Ryann ever gets tired of stepping in his own poop?
Author:  nad69dan [ Wed Jul 14, 2010 10:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Bixler/Diaz/Cedeno/Crosby
Ralphie wrote:
If Diaz comes up, it will be to start. I don't know which between Cedeno and Crosby is sent packing. Neither has much value, but if Crosby goes, who backs up first?


If Crosby is dealt, it will probably be Andy LaRoche as the backup at 1st, and I think Kratz has played there too...
Author:  Bob in Boston [ Wed Jul 14, 2010 10:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Bixler/Diaz/Cedeno/Crosby
To be precise (according to The Baseball Cube and the Indianapolis Indians), Kratz has played 1B 27 times over a pro career that began in 2002 and now spans 612 games. Most recently at AA three years ago with the New Hampshire Fisher Cats.
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