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 Post subject: AAAA
PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 6:17 pm 
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So, if we were to put together a(n) AAAA Pirates All-Star team, who would be on it? Just to get things started I'll name a few...

Chad Hermansen
John Van Benschoten

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 Post subject: Re: AAAA
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JJ Davis
ChrisTikeAdrianNyjer DuffyRedmanBrownMorgan
Jose Castillo

And I strongly suspect Bixler will be on that team in the future, though I hope he proves me wrong.


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 Post subject: Re: AAAA
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I would buy that jersey!

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 Post subject: Re: AAAA
PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 6:30 pm 
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Ron Wright
Brad Eldred
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 Post subject: Re: AAAA
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The 1998 Pittsburgh Pirates?


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 Post subject: Re: AAAA
PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 6:34 pm 
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I forgot all about Brad Eldred! I just checked and he is crushing the ball down in AAA. He's got a 1.004 OPS with 11 HR. He has struck out 40 times in 125 at bats, though. I wonder if he'll get a call up at some time this season, though it will be difficult with Konerko and Thome covering the only places he can play.


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 Post subject: Re: AAAA
PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 6:53 pm 
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Warren Morris
Kevin Polkovich
Jimmy Anderson
Tony(?) Alvarez


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 Post subject: Re: AAAA
PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 7:12 pm 
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Henry Clay wrote:
Warren Morris
Kevin Polkovich
Jimmy Anderson
Tony(?) Alvarez


Great call on Warren Morris. I remember Smizik acting as if this dude was the next Ryne Sandberg.

As for Tony Alvarez, I love it when he gets mentioned on this board. He hit on my wife in her single days. It's a funny story to hear her tell it.

I'd like to add to the list:

J.R. House
Mike Johnston


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 Post subject: Re: AAAA
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Mark Johnson
Freddy Garcia
Brant Brown
Derek Bell
Randall Simon
Lou "Aim for the Stands" Collier
Paul Wagner
Kevin Elster
Mike Benjamin--AZ's favorite player and new best friend
Rich Loiselle
Elmer Dessens
Dan Miceli
Midre Cummings
Jermaine Allensworth
Kip Wells

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 Post subject: Re: AAAA
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Ryan Vogelsong
Adam LaRoche, April version
Franquelis Osoria
Jose Hernandez
Jose Hernandez, part II
Jonah Bayliss
Shane Youman, although I always kind of liked him


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 Post subject: Re: AAAA
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Will Pennyfeather
Enrique Wilson
Emil Brown (now doing pretty well for Oakland)
Adam Hyzdu
Andy Barkett
Mendy Lopez
Tony McKnight
Bruce Aven
Alex Ramirez
Alex Hernandez
Jose Silva
Freddy Garcia (the 3rd baseman, not the pitcher)
Chris Peters
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 Post subject: Re: AAAA
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John Wehner
Trey Beamon
John Hope
Scott Bullett
Dorn Taylor
Trench Davis
Stan Fansler
Dorian "Doe" Boyland

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 Post subject: Re: AAAA
PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 8:45 pm 
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How sad is it that we can basically field a whole division of guys, and it only took 2 hours?

Seriously now, we have to pare it down to a 25 man roster. I expect some really tough positional battles here.


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 Post subject: Re: AAAA
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Due to the lack of catchers on the list, I would add Yamid Haad to the list, and if you carry a 3rd catcher - Tom Prince.


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 Post subject: Re: AAAA
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Kevin the Bucco wrote:
Due to the lack of catchers on the list, I would add Yamid Haad to the list, and if you carry a 3rd catcher - Tom Prince.



How about Humberto Cota?

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 Post subject: Re: AAAA
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IA Pirate wrote:
So, if we were to put together a(n) AAAA Pirates All-Star team, who would be on it? Just to get things started I'll name a few...

Chad Hermansen
John Van Benschoten

It might help if someone defines what a AAAA All Star is. I'd say it's a guy who puts up great numbers in AAA, but flops in the majors. If a guy bypasses AAA entirely I can't really call him a AAAA All Star. That would eliminate guys like Castillo. A major league player who is on his last legs isn't really a AAAA All Star, so I'd eliminate Hernandez.

I'm enjoying reading the lists so far. Here are a warning signs to look for in any AAA guys who are alleged to be great prospects, many of which apply to the guys on this list. They're not guarantees, just warning signs.

If a guy is tearing up AAA at the age of 26 or 27, he probably isn't a prospect.

If a guy has mammoth AAA power combined with a batting average under .290 with few walks and a ton of strikeouts, he probably isn't a prospect.

If a AAA guy is hitting .330 with no power and few walks, he probably isn't a prospect.

If a guy hits home runs with a high numbers of walks and strikeouts, but has an iron glove and runs like he's carrying a refrigerator, he MAY be a prospect, but you'd better trade him before he turns 30, because he'll be washed up soon after that (if he even lasts that long).

If a guy posts a good ERA, but gives up over 12 walks and hits per nine innings without very good strikeout numbers, he probably isn't a prospect.

If a guy has a good ERA, gives up a few hits, but walks and strikes out almost no one, he probably isn't a prospect.

I'm sure you guys can think of a few more.

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 Post subject: Re: AAAA
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chetthespian wrote:
I forgot all about Brad Eldred! I just checked and he is crushing the ball down in AAA. He's got a 1.004 OPS with 11 HR. He has struck out 40 times in 125 at bats, though. I wonder if he'll get a call up at some time this season, though it will be difficult with Konerko and Thome covering the only places he can play.

I can't remember what year it was, but I think that Baseball Prospectus once said that the Pirates could make some entertainment for their fans just by putting Eldred in the lineup every day and waiting to see if he could hit forty home runs before he struck out 200 times.

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 Post subject: Re: AAAA
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How about the great Doug Frobel?


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 Post subject: Re: AAAA
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I always liked Dan Miceli.....and a glance at his information on baseballreference.com indicated that he made almost 9 million in his career....not too shabby!!


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 Post subject: Re: AAAA
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IA Pirate wrote:
Kevin the Bucco wrote:
Due to the lack of catchers on the list, I would add Yamid Haad to the list, and if you carry a 3rd catcher - Tom Prince.



How about Humberto Cota?



Completely slipped my mind, as did Keith Osik.


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