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 Post subject: Re: Dylan Bundy off to Dr. Andrews....
PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:37 pm 
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Barrys Dopers wrote:
Agreed, the cutter/slider is supposed to be bad, not good for the arm so it really makes no sense that stopping throwing it hurt him. Odds are the damage has been done over years of wear and tear, not a few innings this spring.


But someone like Keith Law holds himself out to be an expert and misleads his listeners/readers into believing otherwise. Symptomatic of why I can't stand him.

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 Post subject: Re: Dylan Bundy off to Dr. Andrews....
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Cutter is a completely different pitch than a slider. All a cutter is is fastball with extra pressure applied on the ball with the middle finger. A slider has some wrist snap like a curve but thrown at a higher velocity... 8-) 8-)


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 Post subject: Re: Dylan Bundy off to Dr. Andrews....
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J_C_Steel wrote:
In Keith Law's defense, he also had this response:

Yitz (Stavskyville)

What do you think of the wave at baseball games?

Klaw

I think it is another symptom of the moral decay of Western civilization.


I'm one of the few people that doesn't mind the wave.

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 Post subject: Re: Dylan Bundy off to Dr. Andrews....
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IA Pirate wrote:
J_C_Steel wrote:
In Keith Law's defense, he also had this response:

Yitz (Stavskyville)

What do you think of the wave at baseball games?

Klaw

I think it is another symptom of the moral decay of Western civilization.


I'm one of the few people that doesn't mind the wave.

:o :o :o

But just as long as you know you're in the minority....


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 Post subject: Re: Dylan Bundy off to Dr. Andrews....
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Know what I say to people in the stands in front of me who do the wave?

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 Post subject: Re: Dylan Bundy off to Dr. Andrews....
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Know what I say to people in the stands in front of me who do the wave?

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:lol: :lol: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Dylan Bundy off to Dr. Andrews....
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J_C_Steel wrote:
From Keith Law's chat over at ESPN:

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/ ... -keith-law

Dan (Miami)

As an O's fan, should I be furious about how the team handled Bundy?

Klaw

Furious might not be the word, but I think it's reasonable to be disappointed. It's not clear what they gained by clamping down on his workload, scrapping the cutter, and forcing him to get the ball to the plate more quickly, and it's possible one or more parts of that helped precipitate the injury. It seems like they operated based on some mistaken or unproven beliefs about pitcher health, which isn't the ideal way to handle your top arm.

It could be that, but my guess is that it probably has something to do with this:

http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/05 ... ation.html

"The problem with Bundy comes with the workload. I wrote an article about him the other day, referencing a four day stretch last year in which he started three different games, combining for 293 pitches, including 181 in a single day. That raises some huge concerns with me. First of all, it’s doubtful that this was a one time deal. You don’t just have a guy throwing 80 pitches per outing, then send him out for almost 300 pitches in three starts over four days, including both games in a double header. While Bundy is a big workout freak, and didn’t get injured from the workload, that doesn’t mean the damage hasn’t been done."

I'm opposed to the use of torture on principle, but I'd be tempted to make an exception for high school coaches who would do that to any young man.

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