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 Post subject: Re: Pedro Alvarez
PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 5:28 pm 
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Across the board the Pirates have had trouble with mediocre fastballs this year. They take too many hittable pitches, and swing right through too many hittable pitches.

More than anything, it's an indictment of Huntington.


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 Post subject: Re: Pedro Alvarez
PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 6:14 pm 
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Ralphie wrote:
Across the board the Pirates have had trouble with mediocre fastballs this year. They take too many hittable pitches, and swing right through too many hittable pitches.

More than anything, it's an indictment of Huntington.


Not really, these guys can hit way better than this, they have shown it many times over much larger samples.

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 Post subject: Re: Pedro Alvarez
PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 7:12 pm 
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No. 9 wrote:
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The guy most definitely has the power and skills to hit 50 HR's in a season, it's just a matter of him putting it together.


"Power" (or strength) to hit 50 HRs in a season? I wholeheartedly agree.

"Skills" to hit 50 HRs in a season? I'm really dubious at this point. The guy has some holes in his swing that MLB pitching has done a good job of exploiting. He's been described as having a relatively long swing and, for that reason, it is my opinion that he will never have a good eye at the plate. He may have to rely upon guesswork (and it may be a very "educated" guess based upon a particular pitcher's strengths and tendencies) in particular situations and hope that his guess is right. When he guesses right, he can crush it. If he's wrong, he's awful. That doesn't bode particularly well for consistent production.

At this particular juncture, I'd rather see Josh Harrison at the plate against a lefty than Pedro. I write that with no joy or viciousness. Nothing would make me happier than to see Pedro tearing up the league. I'm just not seeing it. Can't recall another player that can look so "on" at times and then go stretches where he looks like a Pony League player playing against professionals. It has to be killing him on the inside.

I know how you feel, Pedro is looking so helpless against lefties, but there's this to consider.

Alvarez's lifetime OPS vs. lefties: .625
Harrison's lifetime OPS vs. lefties: .585

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 Post subject: Re: Pedro Alvarez
PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 7:44 pm 
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This no time to start thinking about platooning Alvarez. He needs to pull his head out of his ass and work on pitch identification. Cut the plate in half, look for his pitch and drive the damn ball.


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 Post subject: Re: Pedro Alvarez
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Runners on 2nd and 3rd, two outs, top of ninth TONIGHT, Bucs down 2 and Alvarez is scheduled to hit and Harrison is on the bench. As of TODAY, who do you think has a better chance of getting the game tying hit.

Me? I'm sending Harrison up there.

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 Post subject: Re: Pedro Alvarez
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No. 9 wrote:
Runners on 2nd and 3rd, two outs, top of ninth TONIGHT, Bucs down 2 and Alvarez is scheduled to hit and Harrison is on the bench. As of TODAY, who do you think has a better chance of getting the game tying hit.

Me? I'm sending Harrison up there.


Hmm. Depends.

If it's the T9 that means 'Dro has had some AB's already. What did he do in his first 2-3? If he made good contact and smacked a few deep in the desert heat, send him up there to see if he can't hit one out (or see if the D-Backs 'fear' and pitch around him).

If he's as lost at the plate as he has been through six gotta go JH.

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 Post subject: Re: Pedro Alvarez
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Do you think being rushed to the big leagues is a major part of his inconsistent work at the plate? One positive in his defense, you can tell he's been working hard on playing the hot corner. Quite a few times this year I've been shocked, he has a cannon for an arm and can flash the leather.


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 Post subject: Re: Pedro Alvarez
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Runners on 2nd and 3rd, two outs, top of ninth TONIGHT, Bucs down 2 and Alvarez is scheduled to hit and Harrison is on the bench. As of TODAY, who do you think has a better chance of getting the game tying hit.

Me? I'm sending Harrison up there.


Hell, at this point I'd rather have Tony Watson attempt to bunt the runner in.

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 Post subject: Re: Pedro Alvarez
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Runners on 2nd and 3rd, two outs, top of ninth TONIGHT, Bucs down 2 and Alvarez is scheduled to hit and Harrison is on the bench. As of TODAY, who do you think has a better chance of getting the game tying hit.


Just because Harrison will make contact with his inevitable shallow pop up or grounder as opposed to Alvarez striking out still doesn't mean a run will score.


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 Post subject: Re: Pedro Alvarez
PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:13 pm 
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No. 9 wrote:
Runners on 2nd and 3rd, two outs, top of ninth TONIGHT, Bucs down 2 and Alvarez is scheduled to hit and Harrison is on the bench. As of TODAY, who do you think has a better chance of getting the game tying hit.

Me? I'm sending Harrison up there.

I have trouble sending Harrison up there for anyone who doesn't pitch for a living.

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 Post subject: Re: Pedro Alvarez
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No. 9 wrote:
Runners on 2nd and 3rd, two outs, top of ninth TONIGHT, Bucs down 2 and Alvarez is scheduled to hit and Harrison is on the bench. As of TODAY, who do you think has a better chance of getting the game tying hit.

Me? I'm sending Harrison up there.


Eight innings too early and 2 runs off, but still prophetic.

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 Post subject: Re: Pedro Alvarez
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Ok so far tonight, he strikes out. And has an error.


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 Post subject: Re: Pedro Alvarez
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And Harrison PH and looks at strike 3..... :o :o


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 Post subject: Re: Pedro Alvarez
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Az Bucco fan wrote:
And Harrison PH and looks at strike 3..... :o :o


So true!
But he did foul a pitch off. :lol:

2 more for Kdro so far. Lost at sea.

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 Post subject: Re: Pedro Alvarez
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Gee,,slider away off the plate, strike one swinging. Fastball down and away, strike two. 50 footer, ball one. Slider away off the plate, waves at it for strike 3....freaking amazing... :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:


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 Post subject: Re: Pedro Alvarez
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Az Bucco fan wrote:
Gee,,slider away off the plate, strike one swinging. Fastball down and away, strike two. 50 footer, ball one. Slider away off the plate, waves at it for strike 3....freaking amazing... :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:


It's truly amazing how lost he is at the plate right now. Completely lost.

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 Post subject: Re: Pedro Alvarez
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Neil Walker and Garrett Jones aren't running that far behind.

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 Post subject: Re: Pedro Alvarez
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No. 9 wrote:
Neil Walker and Garrett Jones aren't running that far behind.


Love it when a player makes me look bad.

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 Post subject: Re: Pedro Alvarez
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No. 9 wrote:
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Gee,,slider away off the plate, strike one swinging. Fastball down and away, strike two. 50 footer, ball one. Slider away off the plate, waves at it for strike 3....freaking amazing... :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:


It's truly amazing how lost he is at the plate right now. Completely lost.


Weak dribbler out about 4 feet in front of the plate; off balance swing - at least he didn't K! Baby steps!

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 Post subject: Re: Pedro Alvarez
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He's standing way in the back of the box and everything on the outside half is eating him alive. He's set up like a beer-league softball player.

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