Proud fans of a 128-year old tradition

It is currently Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:23 am

All times are UTC - 4 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 8 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: The Shifts
PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:09 am 
Offline
 Profile

Joined: Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:46 am
Posts: 3645
Location: Economy, PA
Was watching the Pirates and the Yankees/Red Sox last night. It seems like there was a lot more infield shifts being employed this year, leaving an entire side of the infield undefended, against both lefties and righties.

I want to see guys bunting and poking singles through those holes. How could you not take the easy single in that situation? But to an extent, it's a skill that will have to be acquired, as the only logical response to the defense.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: The Shifts
PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 1:30 pm 
Offline
User avatar
 Profile

Joined: Sat Apr 26, 2008 6:44 pm
Posts: 10693
Ralphie wrote:
I want to see guys bunting and poking singles through those holes. How could you not take the easy single in that situation? But to an extent, it's a skill that will have to be acquired, as the only logical response to the defense.

Yes, it is a skill hitting pitches on the outside corner the other way. But failing to work on that skill is not the answer. Failing to accomplish that result is not the answer. Continuing to hit ground balls into the shift is not the answer.

Work on hitting the ball the other way. Pedro's first career hit was a bomb to the warning track in left field. Jones hit an opposite-field HR off Kershaw on opening day in 2010. So work on the skill, and improve the ability to hit the ball to the opposite field.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: The Shifts
PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 1:38 pm 
Offline
User avatar
 Profile

Joined: Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:46 pm
Posts: 5015
Location: Washington, DC
Bucfan wrote:
Ralphie wrote:
I want to see guys bunting and poking singles through those holes. How could you not take the easy single in that situation? But to an extent, it's a skill that will have to be acquired, as the only logical response to the defense.

Yes, it is a skill hitting pitches on the outside corner the other way. But failing to work on that skill is not the answer. Failing to accomplish that result is not the answer. Continuing to hit ground balls into the shift is not the answer.

Work on hitting the ball the other way. Pedro's first career hit was a bomb to the warning track in left field. Jones hit an opposite-field HR off Kershaw on opening day in 2010. So work on the skill, and improve the ability to hit the ball to the opposite field.


Stop. You're making entirely too much sense.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: The Shifts
PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 1:42 pm 
Offline
User avatar
 Profile

Joined: Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:01 pm
Posts: 7272
Bucfan wrote:
Ralphie wrote:
I want to see guys bunting and poking singles through those holes. How could you not take the easy single in that situation? But to an extent, it's a skill that will have to be acquired, as the only logical response to the defense.

Yes, it is a skill hitting pitches on the outside corner the other way. But failing to work on that skill is not the answer. Failing to accomplish that result is not the answer. Continuing to hit ground balls into the shift is not the answer.

Work on hitting the ball the other way. Pedro's first career hit was a bomb to the warning track in left field. Jones hit an opposite-field HR off Kershaw on opening day in 2010. So work on the skill, and improve the ability to hit the ball to the opposite field.


I wish when there is one out and no one on in the first that your #2 hitter would bunt the ball to where the 3rd baseman should be standing to get someone on base for McCutchen.

_________________
I say keep the $50 and ban him anyway...

For those jumping ship, we'll keep the bandwagon warm for you...


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: The Shifts
PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 2:28 pm 
Offline
 Profile

Joined: Sat Jul 11, 2009 6:21 am
Posts: 5613
Joe Madden has created a monster!

_________________
Rage, rage against the regression of the light.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: The Shifts
PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:24 pm 
Offline
 Profile

Joined: Sat Apr 26, 2008 6:11 pm
Posts: 3364
Location: Wheeling, WV
If a team gives you a free base-- take it -- who cares if their are two outs. But no we decide go K on three pitches. Bunt the f..... thing.

_________________
2011 Will Be Our Year -- well make that 2012 (just saying) So it looks like 2013 now - how long must this go on!
THIS IS IT-- NO MORE STREAK!!! *** Finally*** Time to win it in 2014


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: The Shifts
PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:29 am 
Offline
User avatar
 Profile

Joined: Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:46 pm
Posts: 5015
Location: Washington, DC
If Neil Walker had hit the ball where it was thrown, he likely would have poked a single into left field. Instead, he tried to pull the ball and grounded to second base for a double play.

Bucfan is prescient.

FUNDAMENTALS.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: The Shifts
PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:09 pm 
Offline
User avatar
 Profile

Joined: Sat Apr 26, 2008 6:44 pm
Posts: 10693
J_C_Steel wrote:
If Neil Walker had hit the ball where it was thrown, he likely would have poked a single into left field. Instead, he tried to pull the ball and grounded to second base for a double play.

I had the same thought in watching the game. The announcers pointed out that trying to pull a fastball on the outside corner very often results in a ground ball to the middle infield. The reason for this is that trying to hit the ball with the barrel ahead of the plate means that the bat has to start its upswing by the point of contact, leading to contact with the top of the baseball. Result: ground ball to middle infield, usually to the pull side.

Further, the fact that Marmol's fastball was getting there at 94 mph means that waiting on the pitch and driving it the other way results in solid contact. Neal's line-drive rate and the fact that he is one of the best Pirates hitters at going the other way suggests to me that if he waits, he drives that belt-high fastball into the notch.


Top
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 8 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 4 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot], Google [Bot], Yahoo [Bot] and 6 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group  
Design By Poker Bandits