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 Post subject: Liriano ...
PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:44 pm 
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I'm hoping and thinking NH will move on from him. Until this latest negotiating tactic by him (Liriano plugging for a guaranteed year after breaking him arm doing gawd knows what), I had been all in favor of working out a modified deal with him. He appears not to have a clue about why it is NH has taken the stance he has.


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I'm guessing that odds are not good that we will see Liriano in a Pirates' uniform. There just doesn't seem to be a "real good feeling" between the two sides. I'm betting that he ends up pitching for some other team and is signed sometime after the beginning of the year. Could be wrong but that is where my money stands right now.

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 Post subject: Re: Liriano ...
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The problem with not adding Liriano is that the market for starting pitching has pretty much thinned out. There are few alternatives left. And if the Pirates are only banking on 100-130 innings out of Karstens (a fairly safe estimate), they need to have another solid starting pitcher around to fill at least 100 innings or so (unless they want to roll the dice with the rookies).

Maybe NH can get him back with a one-year major league deal with a certain amount of guaranteed money. If Liriano can pitch by June he can give the Pirates a good number of innings.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 3:29 pm 
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J_C_Steel wrote:
The problem with not adding Liriano is that the market for starting pitching has pretty much thinned out. There are few alternatives left. And if the Pirates are only banking on 100-130 innings out of Karstens (a fairly safe estimate), they need to have another solid starting pitcher around to fill at least 100 innings or so (unless they want to roll the dice with the rookies).

Maybe NH can get him back with a one-year major league deal with a certain amount of guaranteed money. If Liriano can pitch by June he can give the Pirates a good number of innings.

They ought to be able to get 600 decent innings out of some combination of McDonald, Karstens, Locke, McPherson, Wilson and Cole, I would think. If not, they're probably screwed anyway.

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