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 Post subject: Dear Pirates
PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 1:59 am 
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Please be more like the rays and less like the royals.

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 Post subject: Re: Dear Pirates
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Good point BBF and I agree. However, I'm at the stage where I would shorten that sentence and just say: PLEASE!

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 Post subject: Re: Dear Pirates
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Wow, Dayton Moore strikes again. Not just Myers but two fungible arms for 2 years of Shields and 3 years of Davis.On a strict talent level this would just be bad for a team on the brink of contention since Shields would potentially put you over the top. However, this doesn't make the Royals a contender and leaves them having to deal Shields in 2014 to recoup any value.

I know people are tired of the Friedman love fest, but ask yourself two things
1) When was the last time Tampa traded top propsects for an immediate fix?
2) When was the last time Tampa spent a ton of money in free agency?

If Friedman's ability to win without sacrificing principles isn't enough reason to ask for a better GM in Pittsburgh, I don't know what is.

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 Post subject: Re: Dear Pirates
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BBF wrote:
Please be more like the rays and less like the royals.

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Cameron agrees - http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.ph ... e-in-2013/

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 Post subject: Re: Dear Pirates
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Weren't we complaining last year that the Pirates didn't trade for any significant rentals?

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 Post subject: Re: Dear Pirates
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SUPERCHARGED APE wrote:
Weren't we complaining last year that the Pirates didn't trade for any significant rentals?


I wasn't, nor was BBF, we both disliked the Wandy trade too.

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 Post subject: Re: Dear Pirates
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Dear Pirates,

Stop losing. Get to the playoffs. Live up to your history.

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 Post subject: Re: Dear Pirates
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You have to take into consideration Tampas ability to continue to draft ML talent that makes these moves possible. Let alone just watching Hamilton go.


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 Post subject: Re: Dear Pirates
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Barrys Dopers wrote:
If Friedman's ability to win without sacrificing principles isn't enough reason to ask for a better GM in Pittsburgh, I don't know what is.


The thing of it is, Friedman is the best GM in the game. Nearly every GM looks par compared to him.

NH may not be perfect, but to move on from him in a hopeless pursuit of 'the next Friedman' doesn't seem like a great idea.

If/when the Pirates do move on from NH, we can only hope that said new GM is 1/2 the genius of Friedman.

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 Post subject: Re: Dear Pirates
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NSMaster56 wrote:
Barrys Dopers wrote:
If Friedman's ability to win without sacrificing principles isn't enough reason to ask for a better GM in Pittsburgh, I don't know what is.


The thing of it is, Friedman is the best GM in the game. Nearly every GM looks par compared to him.

NH may not be perfect, but to move on from him in a hopeless pursuit of 'the next Friedman' doesn't seem like a great idea.

If/when the Pirates do move on from NH, we can only hope that said new GM is 1/2 the genius of Friedman.


Why not get Friedman himself, he has been rumored to be available for the right price? The new market inefficiency in MLB is an excellent GM. For less than $10 million a year you could get any GM you want and I'm pretty sure that is a better investment than the $8.5 million a year we will pay Russell Martin.

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 Post subject: Re: Dear Pirates
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Barrys Dopers wrote:
Why not get Friedman himself, he has been rumored to be available for the right price? The new market inefficiency in MLB is an excellent GM. For less than $10 million a year you could get any GM you want and I'm pretty sure that is a better investment than the $8.5 million a year we will pay Russell Martin.


Overpaying for Friedman would be incredibly smart. Maybe he could bring Maddon along.


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 Post subject: Re: Dear Pirates
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Interesting article on Grantland the other day. It was mostly dealing with the salary-capped NFL, but the biggest exploitable market inefficiency exists for real quality coaches. I would say the same exists in this case. Coaches, head office personel are almost always underpaid relative to the entire team's salary structure.


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