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 Post subject: Re: BJ Upton is a Brave
PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:22 pm 
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Barrys Dopers wrote:
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Insane, unless they have some reason to believe that he's about to break out.


What is insane about it? 3 WAR outfielder at worst, $15 million per until age 32, pretty straight forward.

His sub .300 OBP scares me off. Maybe this is an okay signing for the Braves. I wouldn't want him on the Pirates for those terms.

I don't trust WAR, because I don't trust the defensive component. I think we're probably still at least 10 years away from measuring defense properly, if we ever get there at all.

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 Post subject: Re: BJ Upton is a Brave
PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 1:37 pm 
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sisyphus wrote:
Barrys Dopers wrote:
sisyphus wrote:
Insane, unless they have some reason to believe that he's about to break out.


What is insane about it? 3 WAR outfielder at worst, $15 million per until age 32, pretty straight forward.

His sub .300 OBP scares me off. Maybe this is an okay signing for the Braves. I wouldn't want him on the Pirates for those terms.

I don't trust WAR, because I don't trust the defensive component. I think we're probably still at least 10 years away from measuring defense properly, if we ever get there at all.


OK, but his WAR the last three years is 11.5 and his UZR is 0.4, so almost none of his WAR is from defense. Its all baserunning and hitting.

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 Post subject: Re: BJ Upton is a Brave
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Barrys Dopers wrote:
OK, but his WAR the last three years is 11.5 and his UZR is 0.4, so almost none of his WAR is from defense. Its all baserunning and hitting.


Must be a heckuva baserunner, then, because that lifetime 105 OPS+ is nothing to write home about.

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